" I'm sure greatful that we live in a County free from corruption. I heard about one county where two commissioners got together beforehand to agree upon a score of a tourism contract, just so it wouldn't go to one of there rivals. I'm sure glad that wasn't us.

I also heard about this one county where there commissioners were given a 4 year warning about the loss of timber funds. Plenty of time for them to come up with an alternative plan, instead they didn't plan and had to lay off a whole bunch of employees. I'm sure glad that wasn't us.

Oh it is so great to live in Utopia where we worship our county commissioners because they never do anything wrong. I just wish the rest of the world was like us. "

" Ahh, how sweet. Lets all get together and hug now and pretend there is nothing wrong with our county.

We can even sing songs like "We are the World" and Kumbiya. I think it is a great idea to pretend nothing is going on. We have been doing it for how many years now?

Ok, well, I'm going to go now and hug a tree somewhere. It will make me feel much better. Bye.... "

" After reading the letter from the Chamber, I sure hope they get this contract. I know many of their Board members, and they have some very impressive people on their Board.

It will be interesting to see how the scores come out this week, but I sure hope they score the highest.

This will be a very positive move for our community to begin the new year with this group promoting us. "

" Bury your head in the sands. That is typical for those of you think these two walk on water. This is why our County is in such poor shape.

Thanks for your non efforts. "

" I love Klamath County!! I am willing to look ahead for the future of our County. Together, we can make a difference.
Let's look to the good we all can do! If that county employee had evidence of wrong doing, then why doesn't he or she do something about it? Maybe they have only seen or heard one side? There are always two sides to every issue. I think this person should be brave enough to go to John or Al and talk it out. I would. "

" Thank you to "Its Obvious." I will no longer answer those hateful and derogatory bloggers. I agree with you that Klamath County is full of good people with good advice and helpful thoughts to make our County an even better place. You cannot reason with people who are so unwilling to leave the pass behind and work for a better tomorrow; who are so angry at losing their efforts at passing the charter. Let's really work hard to promote our wonderful community. And, please, let's all give the new Board of Commissioners a chance to work together for the benefit of Klamath County!!! I am!!!! "

" To aid in your conspiracy theory, this is my second post, I sure hope that this doesn't spoil your 2 or 3 people theory.

I do want to point out a couple of things. You said "we" lost our takeover attempt. To make it clear to you, I voted no on the Charter. Not because ridding ourselves of these two would make Klamath County better, the way the charter was written, would not have been any better.

You are right though, I do not like the commissioners, and I never will. There dishonesty, illegal activities, failing to provide proper funding to county agencies, and failing to protect the people of Klamath County are the reasons. The illegal awarding of the tourism contract was the straw that broke the camels back. I personally don't care who gets it, just do it honestly.

You ask that I identify who I am. Well, I don't see any Mr or Mrs "It's Obvious" in the phone book. If you agree with this immoral activity, why don't you identify yourself? I will tell you why with me.

I am a county employee, no I'm not any of the ones that worked on the Charter. I already told you my vote. I have seen how these two seek revenge if you talk against them. I do work for an agency that has a department head. This agency will be hurt if they knew who was speaking the TRUTH about them. They seek revenge and will not let it go. If you think Bill Brown was a hothead, you haven't seen anything with Al and John when you cross them. Bill Brown would be an angel next to them.

I have seen first hand the mismanagement of this office as well as the funding this county gets. The good ol boy system is alive and well in Klamath County, and nothing will ever be done about it. They have the wool pulled over most everybodies eyes as evident in these posts that support these two.

If you only knew the truth and what goes on, indictments would be issued, and both could and should be prosecuted for official misconduct. Nobody here will listen, or take on the nobel task of prosecuting.

I as well as most everybody here love Klamath County. I will not let these two run me out. If I felt it was not worth fighting for, I would say nothing.

Klamath County, it's time to wake up and see how bad this county is, and that Al and John are the only ones to blame. "

" To: Does not warrant a reply..........I will not be devastated by your lack of reply. I do, however, conrary to what you or the Elected Officlals in Klamath County think, have a right to my opinion. You may be as hypocritical as you wish, quoting the good book as your bullet proof shield to do and say as you wish. I appreciate you praying for me and Pray for yourself, Please. Blind faith in your politicians will cause you great pain and humilitation in the coming months and years. "

" The very negative comments are coming from the same 2 or 3 people.

They do not like the Commissioners, and never will.

If all your accusations are true, identify who you are, rather than tossing out harmful stuff anonymously.

If you have the proof, bring forward formal charges.

I have tried to reason with these 2 or 3 people tirelessly, and have not been successful. I have concluded that they cannot be reasoned with, and I will no longer try. They will sacrifice the public perception to exact their revenge on the Commissioners, regardless of how the community feels.

They lost their takeover attempt (the charter) in resounding fashion. They will not listen to anyone, including the overwhelming majority of voters.

I personally, will change my focus away from attempting to reason with unreasonable people, and focus on dealing with the healthier part of our community that wants to effect change in a positive way.

I will no longer deal with these very negative folks that define positive change by tallying the total number of people they dislike, and destroy. For they have proven that they do not desire to build coalitions for the good of our community, rather, they will build coalitions of likeminded people that will destroy anyone they don't like, as well as anyone that likes who they don't like.

Their time must come to an end, and they best way to usher in this end, is to no longer acknowledge their irrational thinking.

So I commit to all you fellow commentators, that I will ignore their spewing from this point forward, and will only post comments that I believe will make Klamath shine. Their negative comments will not receive retort from me any longer.

Klamath is a great community full of great people. Working hard together, we will lift us up from this hardship we are in, and we will move into the future in a cohesive, positive manner.

Cheers to all! "

" That is some good advise, maybe you should pass this on to our Commissioners too.

Do unto others, do you mean like not preparing for loss of funds and having to lay off dozens of people. Perhaps they should lay themselves off.

Do unto others, do you mean like illegally awarding contracts. Perhaps they should not do that either.

Do unto others, like give themselves raises, and make the rest of the county employees take wage freezes.

Do unto others, do yo mean like saying they want law enforecement to be there priority, but yet devastate the Sheriff's Office by failing to provide them money?

Seems like out Commissioners need to follow your advise and read the good Book themselves. "

" "Trix" blogs do not even warrant a reply except to say that maybe that person needs to start caring about other people instead of just him or herself. The Good Book (the Bible) says to do unto others as you would want them done unto you. Looking for the good in others instead of always the negative, makes life worth living. I really do feel pity for this person. I, too, will pray for them. Sounds like this person did not get their own way, so they attack others because they are hurt and disappointed. "

" To: Sad, Sad, Sad

People like you are the reason why Klamath and other parts of the Country are in trouble. You stick your head in the sand and hope everything will get better. Blind faith in your leaders will get you in serious trouble. You ave a great new year! "

" To; Trix

The fact that you would post such horrible, damning, and ugly comments on Christmas morning (you know, the day we celebrate the birth of God's FORGIVNES, COMPASSION, AND LOVR, to all mankind), tells us much more about the type of person you are, than your comments tell us about the Commissioners or Klamath.

I will pray for you to have a heart, and that the misery and sadness in your life, should go away.

This is the season to rejoice, not condemn. "

" Do you really think that the Commissioners and other elected officals in Klamath County willing bring their errors and mistakes to the publics attention? NO......They will hide everything until the last minute or until their attorney tells them they better come clean. There is a GREAT amount yet to be "Discovered" about our elected officlas. Tourism folks, here is a motto for your advertisement campaign "Come REDISCOVER Klamath County".The tourism contract is the tip of the iceberg. The contract should be the least of their worries. Recall and prosecution will shed some light on truthfulness. "

" The class of the Chamber of Commerce puts you negative bloggers to shame.

You all could learn much from them. "

" Johnny:

Thanks, this is just another example how these two, and their supporters can't get anything right the first time.

Kinda like this tourism contract. "

" Ho Ho Ho, that was hilarious, unfortunately, I think these commissioners opened their Christmas present a couple of years too early.

To bad the Christmas Gift didn't get it right the first time.

Keep these guys on their toes. I didn't vote yes on the charter, but I will vote yes on any recall. "

" Read the Chamber of Commerce letter.

Hopefully when you are done, you too can behave with some class.

That group is a group many should emulate.

Whoever wins, will be administering our tourism services. We should discontinue this horrible behavior, and support our county. "

" To; Ho Ho Ho

I predicted one of you would steal my post and modify a few words.

Now I understand why you have such a narrow, inaccurate view of our world. Your thoughts belong to others, and you only possess the ability mirror what others tell you.

If the day should come when you learn to think for yourself, you will see just how wrong you are.

Since the greatest form of flatery is duplication, I thank you for complementing me, by stealing my creativity. "

" Proudly brought to you by the Klamath County Commissioners. A new gift they believe will be a sensation.

HOOKED ON PHAILURE..........

That's right people, Hooked on Phailure is a great gift idea phor all those that want to relish in the practice of phailure at every turn.

In the game you will learn how drive county government into the ground and phail miserably. You will be taught how to view that phailure as a success, and proceed to level 2. In level 2, you will learn how to misread, and misuse factual information in a way that will provide you with the confidence to move on to level 3. In level 3 you will learn how to go after a government contract, and again phail. Once you phail in this level, you will learn how to use this phailure to launch a new attempt in pulling to wool over the publics eyes. These steps are laid out in level 4. As you progress through all the steps, you will be taught the intracacies of deception, diversion, and division. These traits are very important as you will need them throughout the game as you continue to phail at every turn.

One of the most popular aspects of this game for the commissioners is.....the game never ends. That's right, you can play this game forever, and phail at everything. The goal of the game is simply to learn what the commissioners have.......Try to destroy everything you can while developing a deep, deep love of phailure.

Hooked on Phailure..... For those that think a Government Contract should go to their friends.

Hooked on Phailure..... for all those that want to enrich nothing, build nothing, destroy everyone, and everything they don't like.

Hooked on Phailure...... for those who just want the world to experience the joys of phailure the county commissioners have enjoyed their entire lives.

Hooked on Phailure......Proudly brought to you by the county commissioners, is available now. Just watch them play over the next several months, and you too may learn to love to phail, just as they do. "

Hooked on Phailure, you too can buy an election. "

" Christmas Gift/Very Funny, your posts are getting old, try something new. "

" To; response to D.A., you are right and how unthoughtful of me. I should have realized that it was just a simple mistake that our commissioners didn't properly follow our counties procedure in awarding the tourism contract the first time around. Thank you very much for pointing this out to me. Have a merry x-mas and I'll try to be not so credicle next time. "

" To the negative rant about DOJ.

Perhaps we should call DOJ to investigate the Commissioner abusing his power to land a big contract for his wife. "

" Proudly brought to you by the charter pholks. A new gift they believe will be a sensation.

HOOKED ON PHAILURE..........

That's right people, Hooked on Phailure is a great gift idea phor all those that want to relish in the practice of phailure at every turn.

In the game you will learn how to launch a takeover of county government and phail miserably. You will be taught how to view that phailure as a success, and proceed to level 2. In level 2, you will learn how to misread, and misuse factual information in a way that will provide you with the confidence to move on to level 3. In level 3 you will learn how to go after a government contract, and again phail. Once you phail in this level, you will learn how to use this phailure to launch a new attempt at taking over the county government. These steps are laid out in level 4. As you progress through all the steps, you will be taught the intracacies of deception, diversion, and division. These traits are very important as you will need them throughout the game as you continue to phail at every turn.

One of the most popular aspects of this game for the charter pholks is.....the game never ends. That's right, you can play this game forever, and phail at everything. The goal of the game is simply to learn what the charter folks have.......Try to destroy everything you can while developing a deep, deep love of phailure.

Hooked on Phailure..... For those that think a 2 to 1 loss means "over 50% of the voters want change".

Hooked on Phailure..... for all those that want to enrich nothing, build nothing, destroy everyone, and everything they don't like.

Hooked on Phailure...... for those who just want the world to experience the joys of phailure the charter pholks have enjoyed their entire lives.

Hooked on Phailure......Proudly brought to you by the charter pholks, is available now. Just watch them play over the next several months, and you too may learn to love to phail, just as they do. "

" Great, here we go again, another fine mess you got us into Mr. Commissioners. Bend Guy, I wouldn't advise visiting, these two have things so messed up down here, I think we rival Illinois Government for the most crooked polititians around.

These two have been awarding contracts for how many years now. All of a sudden, ooops sorry guys, messed up here gotta do a do over.

All those that think these two walk on water all got there hand caught in the cookie jar this time. You right, it is hilarious reading these posts and actually think that these two commissioners do a good job. The inteligence level of these two are exhibited in the fabulous "christmas gift". This had all the makings of an adult conversation until then.

Over 50% of the voters of Klamath County feel that these people are doing a poor job and "change" is needed. Maybe Nobama could come here and clean us up.

How many more hundreds of thousands of dollars do these two need to cost us before we finally open our eyes. I think the Department of Justice would be very interested in investigating an official misconduct charge against these two. Pre-Planning on who will get a contract is unethical and illegal.

Recall, Revote or Charter, which ever comes first. "

" Dear "No Money"

"The staff at the county worked their normal hours, doing their normal jobs."

So they work for free? They are not paid wages and benefits?

There was effort and were there is effort, money is spent, tax money! And if this has to be correct, time and money to fix it!

Face it folks are you that dense? Nothing is free, money is spent whether you can physically put your hands on it or see it. Don't think so? Don't work for a month and tell me how you feed, clothe, house, and pay your bills! "

" Hey Ray,

Zero taxpayer money has been wasted, as zero taxpayer money has been spent.

All of the work was done by volunteers.

The staff at the county worked their normal hours, doing their normal jobs.

Read the Chamber of Commerce letter to the editor. "

" To Facts:

You sir or Ma'am need to get your "facts" clear and straight. If no money wasn't wasted then this matter would be closed. Whether the five attorney's donate their time or not it's the eforts to get to that point that costs taxpayers money! Are you that short sighted? "

" To the poster from Bend:

You made some extremely good points in your post.

I would encourage all of you to go to the letter to the editor written by the Chamber. The sentiments expressed in Darin's letter are a great example for the rest of us to follow.

Be kind and understanding. The Chamber letter makes me proud. What a truly classy organization. "

" Have you ever thought about the fact that the commissioners are people just like you and me? That there are times when, maybe even you, may overlook something??? Guess what?? When they discovered the oversight, they told the whole county about it. They did not try to hide it or "beat around the bush." It is time that everyone realize that we all learn new things if we are willing to be teachable. But, people like you want to always point out the faults about everyone else. When you point your finger at someone else, you have 3 pointing back at you. All I have to say is that I respect them for sharing with all of us what happened, how they were correcting it, and now lets chill out and allow the process to work. Get off your high horse and allow the rest of us to be people who are not perfect. "

" I am a resident of Bend Oregon and was thinking of coming down to stay at the Running Y. I would like to know if these comments are representative of the residents of your county. I thought because Klamath is smaller, the folks might be friendly, nice, down-home. However, some of these blogs are very mean-spirited.

As someone who travels a lot and arranges trips for others, I would like to put my two cents in....

KLAMATH is BEAUTIFUL! BUT!! Every place has beauty if you look. In fact dozens of places have mountains, rivers, lakes, good restaurants. What can make you stand out from the rest? Crater Lake you say?? Well, that's a good start and trust me, it's MAGNIFICENT. However, the one thing that makes someone come back or makes a trip/destination memorable is the quality of the PEOPLE that you meet.

Why should I visit Klamath Lake/Lake Euwana/Lake of the Woods/Rocky Point over Anthony Lakes, Wallowa Lake, Lake Billy Chinook, Yellowjacket? The reason is going to be because A - it's beautiful and B - the folks I met, talked to, heard from, etc. Again, it's the PEOPLE!!

If I'm looking to go on a road trip and I can choose between Medford, Roseburg, Klamath Falls, why would I pick one over the other? Those locations are all a bit different. So what's going to sway me? The PEOPLE!!

I could go on and on but I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a ton of negative comments after this anyway from the people who just don't get it. And I dont care which organization you're with....many of you have seemed 'clique'ish', mean-spirited, and don't have a lot to say good about your county. I'd suggest you spend your time writing good things. Convince me why I should come

Last thing, if you think other potential visitors aren't reading these, open "GOOGLE" and do a search on Tourism Klamath County. As of this morning, these are coming up as number 3!!

(oh and on one of these tourism articles I saw someone complain about Californians, I'll just quash that and say I am a lifelong Oregon resident, have never lived any where else). "

" If they gave prizes for funniest comments, whoever wrote "A Christmas Gift" would win 1st place.

That is the funniest thing I have ever seen posted in here!

I really enjoyed reading it, it is so funny! "

" How is it possible that they did not follow proper proceedure the first time. Surely deciding contracts aren't a new thing for our county administration. My guess is that many people in county gov. knew that this was improper, but what can they do against the commissioners. It took a lawyer from out of town to tell us that we didn't follow proper procedure. This is an embarrassment for the way we conduct things here in klamath Falls. "

" To Ray: Where in the world are you getting you facts? What taxpayers money? What corruption? Please read the blog from "A Christmas Gift." You need some redirection. You accuse and throw out "airless" assertions. Are you not aware of checks and balances in our form of government? Maybe you need to take a few days and actually walk "in someone's shoes from government" as was stated in another blog. Please be manly enough to get both sides of the facts and stories before you say what you said. Only then can anyone put any credence to your wild accusations. The attorneys, as stated in the paper, are doing this tourism committee free of charge!!!!! Some people actually give of their time and talents to help make Klamath County a wonderful place for families. Try it, you might like it. "

" Yes Yes Yes......Please state officials. Please come down here and investigate the County Commissioner trying to abuse his power to land a big contract for his wife. "

" More taxpayers money down the drain for another bad call....when will the madness stop?

Maybe one day when a county official goes to jail then the others will wise up!

Please State officials investigate the corruption in Klamath County! "

" Proudly brought to you by the charter pholks. A new gift they believe will be a sensation.

HOOKED ON PHAILURE..........

That's right people, Hooked on Phailure is a great gift idea phor all those that want to relish in the practice of phailure at every turn.

In the game you will learn how to launch a takeover of county government and phail miserably. You will be taught how to view that phailure as a success, and proceed to level 2. In level 2, you will learn how to misread, and misuse factual information in a way that will provide you with the confidence to move on to level 3. In level 3 you will learn how to go after a government contract, and again phail. Once you phail in this level, you will learn how to use this phailure to launch a new attempt at taking over the county government. These steps are laid out in level 4. As you progress through all the steps, you will be taught the intracacies of deception, diversion, and division. These traits are very important as you will need them throughout the game as you continue to phail at every turn.

One of the most popular aspects of this game for the charter pholks is.....the game never ends. That's right, you can play this game forever, and phail at everything. The goal of the game is simply to learn what the charter folks have.......Try to destroy everything you can while developing a deep, deep love of phailure.

Hooked on Phailure..... for all those that want to enrich nothing, build nothing, destroy everyone, and everything they don't like.

Hooked on Phailure...... for those who just want the world to experience the joys of phailure the charter pholks have enjoyed their entire lives.

Hooked on Phailure......Proudly brought to you by the charter pholks, is available now. Just watch them play over the next several months, and you too may learn to love to phail, just as they do. "

" "Why" said it right. It really would not have mattered who the commissioners would have decided on for the tourism committee, the negative bloggers would not have approved. So, what gives them the right to approve or disapprove??? Lets, look to the source of their disapproval!!!-They do not approve who the voters of Klamath County elected to run our county; so if you are going to continue to read the blogs, you will just have to put up with people such as "nay sayer." Maybe we should remember what our partents told us when we were kids: "If you can't something nice about someone, don't say it at all." This has nothing to do with expressing our views and opinions, but it has to do with personal attacks on people. "

" The Brown's friends, AKA the charter group, and the Brown's, will continue to berade the Commissioners unless they agree to "gift" the Brown's the tourism contract. They are furious that Dawnn and Bill have to compete at all.

They will continue this tone of dissent through the award of this contract and beyond. "

" Why be concerened with what they are doing. For cry'in out loud you people need to get a life as writing what you think has no bearing whats so ever on the outcome. I get a kick out of reading the continuous gripping that you people post. So keep it up. "

" To the 'nay'...you always seem to take the dark side of things...could you enlighten us as to why you are the way you are? Might assist those who follow your blogs as to where you are coming from. The dark side of topics isn't always the worst, just negative...and what really comes from just negative when,as you know, you need the positive side of a topic to be balanced... "

" i do not think that is a good idea to have attorneys that are not very knowledgeable about tourism judge the presentations. how will they know what is the best way to market the county unless they have direct experience in marketing is my concern. they will be fair probably, which is good, but not as qualified as they should be. glad they are doing it for free. why not have 5 farmers or 5 teachers? merry christmas "

" You need to read the articles in the paper alittle closer. The commissioners did NOT pick the attorneys! And, for those who blogged about who is paying the legal fees for the attorneys-THERE ARE NO FEES BEING PAID!!! I think it is a good idea to have people who are not connected to tourism, judge the presentations. Also, it prevents any tampering by the bidders to other tourism specialists. This keeps it nice and clean. Let's lighten up and enjoy the process. Good Grief, I wonder if you will ever see anything positive about any issue. You seem to be a very negative person. Merry Christmas!! That means, enjoy the Season!! "

" Great, a hand picked panel by the commissioners that messed up in the first place. Hmmmmm I wonder which way this is going to go? "