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Informal survey: Klamath Basin vote nearly equal on home rule charter
Klamath Basin voters supporting the home rule charter are slightly ahead of those opposed to the change in county government. Of 468 survey respondents, 47 percent voted "yes" for the home rule charter, while 46.2 percent voted "no." The Herald and News is surveying area residents about how they voted on certain issues. To take the survey, click here. Results are posted here.
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take a quick reality check wrote on Nov 8, 2008 12:12 AM:
" To Michael...and the rest
I lived in the Seattle area for over 20 years before moving here...yes when I came I was horrified at the ignorance of the population as a whole...but Klamath Falls is a beautifull place to live...I refuse to let the closed minded drive me out. I will stay... my children who are raised to be diverse will also stay.
As un-racial as we are as a family I will address the issue of race in this fashion.
Have you ever been in the deep South or in Miami? Have you ever tried to "show" kindness to a person of color in that area? If you walk into the wrong area as the wrong color....you will die. Its not a joke...it is still very real and if you think I don't know what I am talking about take a stroll to Hilltop in Tacoma or try taking your self down to Compton in L.A. I dare you to just take your pooch and go for a stroll....ha, you won't last five minutes.
The fact is...
This country has good and bad on both the white and black sides of the fence and no matter how hard we try you will see hatred...do you really think Oprah is not racially motivated when she supports Obama?
Do you really think that this election was won because of Obama's promises?
Yea, right the leader of our counrty was elected because of his color and title as an African-American.
Obama sends a fuzzy message it feels warm and tingly because he is telling the american people what we want to hear....the oldest trick in the book.
Let me make it a little more simple...tell the woman what she wants to hear and bada bing ...your the lucky man.
We are the lucky american...black or white doesn't matter.
The next morning (in four years) your still going to feel like you where used.
I will still teach my children the truth about the fact that our skin color means nothing ...we are all equal regardless of skin color or gender...respect to all WHO DESERVE RESPECT THRU THEIR ACTIONS.
On the other hand you will not find me walking the pooch at 9PM in Tacoma's Hilltop of under the Alaskan Way via-duct after dinner at Pier 69.
You will however find me at the local gun store in Klamath Falls making sure my ammendment rights are protected :-) "
I lived in the Seattle area for over 20 years before moving here...yes when I came I was horrified at the ignorance of the population as a whole...but Klamath Falls is a beautifull place to live...I refuse to let the closed minded drive me out. I will stay... my children who are raised to be diverse will also stay.
As un-racial as we are as a family I will address the issue of race in this fashion.
Have you ever been in the deep South or in Miami? Have you ever tried to "show" kindness to a person of color in that area? If you walk into the wrong area as the wrong color....you will die. Its not a joke...it is still very real and if you think I don't know what I am talking about take a stroll to Hilltop in Tacoma or try taking your self down to Compton in L.A. I dare you to just take your pooch and go for a stroll....ha, you won't last five minutes.
The fact is...
This country has good and bad on both the white and black sides of the fence and no matter how hard we try you will see hatred...do you really think Oprah is not racially motivated when she supports Obama?
Do you really think that this election was won because of Obama's promises?
Yea, right the leader of our counrty was elected because of his color and title as an African-American.
Obama sends a fuzzy message it feels warm and tingly because he is telling the american people what we want to hear....the oldest trick in the book.
Let me make it a little more simple...tell the woman what she wants to hear and bada bing ...your the lucky man.
We are the lucky american...black or white doesn't matter.
The next morning (in four years) your still going to feel like you where used.
I will still teach my children the truth about the fact that our skin color means nothing ...we are all equal regardless of skin color or gender...respect to all WHO DESERVE RESPECT THRU THEIR ACTIONS.
On the other hand you will not find me walking the pooch at 9PM in Tacoma's Hilltop of under the Alaskan Way via-duct after dinner at Pier 69.
You will however find me at the local gun store in Klamath Falls making sure my ammendment rights are protected :-) "
Polka Rocks wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:11 PM:
" Who cares about the Prez. What I want to know is what happened to Laura from 99.5 the ROCK. She was the best DJ we had in years!!!! "
whups wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:53 PM:
" darn! the election was tuesday? My bad, I did not vote for my favorite corporate party. "
VW Bug wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:58 AM:
" No disrespect taken. Thank you for your reply... Again, have a great day! "
BS wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:04 AM:
" VW Bug,
I haven't shown a lack of respect to anyone, especially you. I am willing to unite behind our elected president although I disagree with some of his views. I'm simply pointing out that none of us would find any postings 8 years ago about your eagerness to unite the parties. That itself should explain to you why there's such separation.............
"But as far as I can tell from the way conservative right...You can never respect my opinion, even if deep down you agree." ....................... You seem to be pushing your opinion on me, but I still respect is as your own. Show me where I didn't?
"You have no respect for me or others
who have opinions that might vary from your own. " ............you should be reading this aloud into a mirror.
"I am able to see outside my box and see what our great country has to offer us".................a guess the vision outside your box is more important than the vision outside mine........see previous comment.
"...and regardless of who leads us...it is the followers that make the difference.".......Can you honestly say that you would have made that comment 8 years ago?
Everything you've typed is an example of your opinion, and how anyone who has thier own shows a lack of respect.
You're the only one proving how one sided a conversation with you would be.
Thank you, I had a wonderful day..............I hope I don't disrespect you by wishing you the same good day. "
I haven't shown a lack of respect to anyone, especially you. I am willing to unite behind our elected president although I disagree with some of his views. I'm simply pointing out that none of us would find any postings 8 years ago about your eagerness to unite the parties. That itself should explain to you why there's such separation.............
"But as far as I can tell from the way conservative right...You can never respect my opinion, even if deep down you agree." ....................... You seem to be pushing your opinion on me, but I still respect is as your own. Show me where I didn't?
"You have no respect for me or others
who have opinions that might vary from your own. " ............you should be reading this aloud into a mirror.
"I am able to see outside my box and see what our great country has to offer us".................a guess the vision outside your box is more important than the vision outside mine........see previous comment.
"...and regardless of who leads us...it is the followers that make the difference.".......Can you honestly say that you would have made that comment 8 years ago?
Everything you've typed is an example of your opinion, and how anyone who has thier own shows a lack of respect.
You're the only one proving how one sided a conversation with you would be.
Thank you, I had a wonderful day..............I hope I don't disrespect you by wishing you the same good day. "
Bill wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:00 AM:
" To all the people who are still in a cloud of fear about our differences and what they were brought up to believe. Please take a look around and realize your thinking is fear based and nothing else...
This was written in 1949,
You've got to be taught
To hate and fear
You've got to be taught
From year to Year
It's got to be drummed
in your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be taught
To be Afraid
Of people whose eyes
are oddly made
And people whose skin
Is a different shade
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be taught
Before it's too late
Before you are 6 or 7 or 8
To hate all the people
your relatives hate
You've got to be carefully taught
Rogers and Hammerstien. "
This was written in 1949,
You've got to be taught
To hate and fear
You've got to be taught
From year to Year
It's got to be drummed
in your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be taught
To be Afraid
Of people whose eyes
are oddly made
And people whose skin
Is a different shade
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be taught
Before it's too late
Before you are 6 or 7 or 8
To hate all the people
your relatives hate
You've got to be carefully taught
Rogers and Hammerstien. "
Applesauce wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:29 AM:
" Michael
Come back we don't have to outnumber the (Bubba's) in this town we need people who have actually lived outside of the basin to come back and show people that change and tolerance are good things. Just because thats the way (Pa) always thought does not make it right..... "
Come back we don't have to outnumber the (Bubba's) in this town we need people who have actually lived outside of the basin to come back and show people that change and tolerance are good things. Just because thats the way (Pa) always thought does not make it right..... "
Optimistic wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:20 PM:
" You know honestly I had a hard time being excited about any of the political parties this time around. When they announced the candidates for both parties I just had a hard time following either one they just didn't give me that warm fuzzy feeling. I was really and truly hoping that Rudy Giuliani would go further that is who I was interested in because I thought he did a wonderful job when it came to the 9/11 attacks. And you can all tell me off because that is who I was hoping for but he never really got his feet off the ground and it was a shame to me. I did prefer McCain a little more than Obama but I think it was because I really enjoyed Sarah Palin I guess because she seemed genuine to me and that is my opinion I realize not everyone is going to agree with me. I do think it is great that we are changing history it gives the future generation something to look forward too and realize that anything is possible if you put your mind to it. I am going to be optimistic about Obama in hopes that he can make some great changes and carryout this country in a professional manner and not disappoint us, the same feeling I would have towards McCain. We are in a huge economic hardship and hopefully he will help us pull out of it. My biggest concern is that he will pull out our troops fighting for our freedom and that it might bring another type of problem such as another 9/11. You have to remember that a great number of those troops have volunteered to go overseas to fight for our country and you would hate for it to be in our backyard so to speak. I know that Bush has a very low approval rating and that a lot of people are very disappointed in him. I however am trying to look at some of the good things that he has done such as capturing Saddam Hussein. While he does not have a great approval rating he will be a president that you remember good and bad and tell your children and grandchildren about, at least I will because later down the road you will see the clearing in the fog. Really and truly all you can do is give everyone a fair chance and see what becomes of it.
Just so you know I didn't vote for either candidate I wrote in my vote. "
Just so you know I didn't vote for either candidate I wrote in my vote. "
VW Bug wrote on Nov 5, 2008 5:45 PM:
" BS... we HAD to stand by our president or be seen as a traitor to this country. I didn't and don't have to like him or how he has lied (proven) us into a war.
I am not worried about my party affiliation as you seem to be worried about it.
But as usual, you have digressed from the issue. I would just like to see some unity in this country and non-partisianship, because that is what has created the divide. You assume to know who I am and what my ideals are and I suppose I do the same to you. But for the sake of this country, maybe, just maybe we can all learn to put it aside and try to unite as we once were. But I know... from the venues that are out there, that there is little chance because you are going to have your beliefs and I am going to have mine...and perhaps they may be the same, and perhaps they won't. But shouldn't we all respect each other and each other's opinions...even if we don't agree with it?
I am and always have been proud to be an American, but what I am not proud of is how divided this country has become. That was my point. And even with George in the WH, I at least learned to accept those opinions that I did not agree with. But as far as I can tell from the way conservative right...You can never respect my opinion, even if deep down you agree. That is the greatest sadness of all. No respect and just as you have shown me...You have no respect for me or others
who have opinions that might vary from your own.
Again, I say... what is ignorance and intolerance??? I don't know and I don't care... It is a sad world to be in, but I am glad that I am able to see outside my box and see what our great country has to offer us...and regardless of who leads us...it is the followers that make the difference.
You are very entitled to your opinion and heaven knows I don't care if you ever seek anything beyond what you chose to know, but do not condemn me for what my beliefs are or what I chose to know.
Have a nice day sir.... "
I am not worried about my party affiliation as you seem to be worried about it.
But as usual, you have digressed from the issue. I would just like to see some unity in this country and non-partisianship, because that is what has created the divide. You assume to know who I am and what my ideals are and I suppose I do the same to you. But for the sake of this country, maybe, just maybe we can all learn to put it aside and try to unite as we once were. But I know... from the venues that are out there, that there is little chance because you are going to have your beliefs and I am going to have mine...and perhaps they may be the same, and perhaps they won't. But shouldn't we all respect each other and each other's opinions...even if we don't agree with it?
I am and always have been proud to be an American, but what I am not proud of is how divided this country has become. That was my point. And even with George in the WH, I at least learned to accept those opinions that I did not agree with. But as far as I can tell from the way conservative right...You can never respect my opinion, even if deep down you agree. That is the greatest sadness of all. No respect and just as you have shown me...You have no respect for me or others
who have opinions that might vary from your own.
Again, I say... what is ignorance and intolerance??? I don't know and I don't care... It is a sad world to be in, but I am glad that I am able to see outside my box and see what our great country has to offer us...and regardless of who leads us...it is the followers that make the difference.
You are very entitled to your opinion and heaven knows I don't care if you ever seek anything beyond what you chose to know, but do not condemn me for what my beliefs are or what I chose to know.
Have a nice day sir.... "
Michael wrote on Nov 5, 2008 5:24 PM:
" Mr. Jim, thanks for proving my point. Klamath Falls residents love the whole "love it or leave it" mentality. I guess that and the need to have an arsenal the size of the Malin PD, if there is one, in your house are all they have to cling to living in an area as devoid of culture as Klamath is. But hey, if you wanna come to where I live in Seattle, I will show you a good time. And don't worry you can't catch "the Gay" it's not contagious, no matter what Sarah Palin thinks. "
Lance wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:05 PM:
" Thank God, I can finally quit my job, get welfare, and still get a tax return.
Thank you for voting Obama. "
Thank you for voting Obama. "
Michael wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:38 PM:
" There are so many ignorant people in Klamath Falls. I am so glad I left, I would be willing to bet that many of the people who voted for McPalin just did because they were going to vote for a republican no matter what. I was originally a supporter of Bill Richardson, but when I read some of the ideas that Obama held I threw my support behind him. All the people who say God help us, please, with what GWB has done to this great country, there is no way that Obama could do any worse. All over the world, in areas that hated us for bringing Bush to a second term, they are saying that the Americans finally did something right. People said horrible vile things about Michelle Obama when she said she is finally proud to be an American and you know what, I know what she was talking about. I am so proud and optimistic, partially because I am no longer in a place as backward as Klamath Falls, that I can barely keep the smile off my face at work. "
A.P. wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:34 AM:
" i'm not all that suprised, i'm simply relieved. i've sold the american voters short and i appologize for it. the movement of coexsitence that has grown up in populated areas of our country has breached and spilled right into rural america. this is a beautiful day and a moment in our history when you will, beyond a shadow of a doubt, remember where u were when it happened; everyone from the the rural farmer in the state of jefferson to the inter city youth voting for the first time because "this time it's that important," to the whiskey distiller of tennessee... we have had made peace with the status quo.
i know some of you are petrified with fear right now but YOU need to get behind this president because he deserves it. he could not have been elected with out the uprising of voters who, in the past were apathetic. people from all backgrounds, relegions, class and race... lots and lots of white votes!
we love the new direction and many of us are fairly fanatic about this movement. i mean to say that were not all the pacifist type and may be a little perturbed upon hearing negativity aimed at the new president elect.
only time will tell whether he makes a good president but the repair to our country's reputation has already begun. i havn't been proud of this country's conduct in 7 long years. now i feel there's hope. we need to be diplomatic not erratic and that's the change we're getting in obabma. we need to rebuild. we need new energy and we need healtcar. he's had my vote all along and will need all our support to make this country a better place. "
i know some of you are petrified with fear right now but YOU need to get behind this president because he deserves it. he could not have been elected with out the uprising of voters who, in the past were apathetic. people from all backgrounds, relegions, class and race... lots and lots of white votes!
we love the new direction and many of us are fairly fanatic about this movement. i mean to say that were not all the pacifist type and may be a little perturbed upon hearing negativity aimed at the new president elect.
only time will tell whether he makes a good president but the repair to our country's reputation has already begun. i havn't been proud of this country's conduct in 7 long years. now i feel there's hope. we need to be diplomatic not erratic and that's the change we're getting in obabma. we need to rebuild. we need new energy and we need healtcar. he's had my vote all along and will need all our support to make this country a better place. "
Thrilled wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:41 AM:
" Our great country has prevailed!!! This is a day of great importance. This is truly a great day! I could not be prouder and all you Repulicans that backed McCain so vehemently I hope you listened to his speech last night. McCain spoke of standing behind the new president and crossing partisan aisles to get this country back on track. The whole Republican party needs to heed his words. "
Roxanne wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:38 AM:
" Hello Klamath Falls! We have a new President elect! Whether you voted for him or not, he will be our new Commander in Chief come January 20th. I am sure the transition will be a smooth one with the White House and governing buildings left better than they were found when the Clintons left office and did all the damage and thievery of certain things. I pray that when Obama's tenure is completed, they will make the transition for his successor as smooth. There is a difference in Obama vs. Clinton, and it is not race. Whether you voted for him or not - he is to be respected and supported, especially during a time of war. He is inheriting 2 wars. Iraq is being won, our troops will be leaving there. Afghanistan - a hotbed again. We will not be leaving there anytime soon. Our new President elect needs our support and our prayers. We are a United States - we all bleed red, regardless of our race, our religion, etc. We have to work together for the common good of all. Have a wonderful day! (You woke up on this side of the dirt, right? It's a beautiful day!) "
Let us Unite wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:26 AM:
" The Libs said the same thing about leaving for Canada 4 years ago when Bush was elected, unfortunately they stayed and now we will have to deal with this socialist president for at least the next 4 years.
I cannot "unite" around a president that will give a tax return to people that don't work. $250,000 or less and you will get a tax break, wait a minute, I meant, 200,000 a year......stop, stop, what I really meant to say was 150,000. Oh, just kidding it's really 100,000 a year and you will get a tax break.
By the time he is sworn in, anybody making more that a buck will have a tax increase, yea lets unite behind that.
Let us unite to make this country as unsafe as it was 9 years ago, let us unite to say it's ok to fly planes into buildings, let us unite to have all those that died in Iraq to be in vain so we could elect a socialist government, let us unite to raise taxes on small business so these small businesses can pass it on to us, let us unite so energy prices can skyrocket, let us unite so we can bankrupt to coal industry, let us unite.
Bitter, no, scared, yes. "
I cannot "unite" around a president that will give a tax return to people that don't work. $250,000 or less and you will get a tax break, wait a minute, I meant, 200,000 a year......stop, stop, what I really meant to say was 150,000. Oh, just kidding it's really 100,000 a year and you will get a tax break.
By the time he is sworn in, anybody making more that a buck will have a tax increase, yea lets unite behind that.
Let us unite to make this country as unsafe as it was 9 years ago, let us unite to say it's ok to fly planes into buildings, let us unite to have all those that died in Iraq to be in vain so we could elect a socialist government, let us unite to raise taxes on small business so these small businesses can pass it on to us, let us unite so energy prices can skyrocket, let us unite so we can bankrupt to coal industry, let us unite.
Bitter, no, scared, yes. "
fnord wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:51 AM:
" oh that's rich... wanting to escape perceived socialism by moving to Europe. That alarm is going to wake you up like a bucket over your head being hit by a hammer. "
Bill wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:43 AM:
" Pete G
One word HALIBURTON quit throwing stones your aim like your arguments are off target. Anyone can twist any event to make it match thier opinion watch this. How many millions of dollars did we waste trying to pin Clinton for something until finally we just spent a measly $80 mil to prove he cheated with an intern? Me thinks we could have done alot better things with that money than attacking something that was between a mariied couple. It did not seem to hurt Kennedy's poularity...... "
One word HALIBURTON quit throwing stones your aim like your arguments are off target. Anyone can twist any event to make it match thier opinion watch this. How many millions of dollars did we waste trying to pin Clinton for something until finally we just spent a measly $80 mil to prove he cheated with an intern? Me thinks we could have done alot better things with that money than attacking something that was between a mariied couple. It did not seem to hurt Kennedy's poularity...... "
BS wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:33 AM:
" VW Bug,
It is too bad that we cannot all stand behind our president elect, just as we all had to stand by our president the past 8 years...
Remember the saying...UNITED we stand, DIVIDED we fall.
Funny how you state that we HAD to stand behind our previous president but then quote the need for "unity". You don't speak as if you were willing to unite previously...................................no need for you to identify your party affiliation, your comments, as typical as they are, scream it for you. "
It is too bad that we cannot all stand behind our president elect, just as we all had to stand by our president the past 8 years...
Remember the saying...UNITED we stand, DIVIDED we fall.
Funny how you state that we HAD to stand behind our previous president but then quote the need for "unity". You don't speak as if you were willing to unite previously...................................no need for you to identify your party affiliation, your comments, as typical as they are, scream it for you. "
VW Bug wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:55 AM:
" To all those who are leaving the US...have a nice safe trip and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
It is too bad that we cannot all stand behind our president elect, just as we all had to stand by our president the past 8 years... It would be wonderful to see our great nation unite...Remember the saying...UNITED we stand, DIVIDED we fall. It is time to stop the partisan fighting and become one again...But then there are those who say they are patriotic, but it seems only that they are patriotic when it suits them (and everyone else is a traitor). I hope and pray that our country will now start to mend. And for all you who want to leave, God Bless you and get the heck out of here, it is because of that attitude the UNITED States stands divided. I voted for my country and the hope to see her great again.
But I guess we will see what really happens in the next 4 - 8 years. Oh yea, Rush told you already...the New World Order begins... yea...whatever... (that has been a threat since??? ) "
It is too bad that we cannot all stand behind our president elect, just as we all had to stand by our president the past 8 years... It would be wonderful to see our great nation unite...Remember the saying...UNITED we stand, DIVIDED we fall. It is time to stop the partisan fighting and become one again...But then there are those who say they are patriotic, but it seems only that they are patriotic when it suits them (and everyone else is a traitor). I hope and pray that our country will now start to mend. And for all you who want to leave, God Bless you and get the heck out of here, it is because of that attitude the UNITED States stands divided. I voted for my country and the hope to see her great again.
But I guess we will see what really happens in the next 4 - 8 years. Oh yea, Rush told you already...the New World Order begins... yea...whatever... (that has been a threat since??? ) "
Curious wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:26 AM:
" I want to know why not all of the candidates were on my ballot? My spouse and myself received the same ballot and we had no choice on there for Mayor, city council, and a few others why is that, does anyone know? "
KJ wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:04 AM:
" Lets just say I am not very happy with my country at the moment and am VERY seriously considering moving to Ireland to get out of dodge before the you know what hits the fan!! "
Bigger than Titanic wrote on Nov 4, 2008 9:58 PM:
" I told you the survey was being manipulated by the pro-charter people. It wasn't even, more like 2 to one. "
Diane wrote on Nov 4, 2008 6:31 PM:
" One reason why I left K. Falls was the level of mentality, the stupidity, the good ole boys and the prejudice & biased commissioners!! I hope the charter goes through so you can get the right kind of government.... "
Sam wrote on Nov 4, 2008 4:41 PM:
" Pete G
We love you, keep these radical left wingers on their toes. In a few hours we will know if we can celebrate or start cashing in our portfolios and buying food for our shelters.
McCain/Palin 08 "
We love you, keep these radical left wingers on their toes. In a few hours we will know if we can celebrate or start cashing in our portfolios and buying food for our shelters.
McCain/Palin 08 "
A.R. wrote on Nov 4, 2008 2:44 PM:
" The level of ignorance in the Klamath Basin is alarming, although not surprising. There is no reason for your geographical location to stunt your intellectual growth. With some education, and not necessarily formal education, you begin to realize that change does not have to be scary; it can be a really good thing. It is easy to see that what has been going on in this country from the leadership on down for the past eight years has not been working. It has been downright embarrassing. Our country and our people are better than that and deserve better. We are in desparate need of change. The kind of change Obama will bring. All that are "hard core, right wing, I'm a republican because I don't know any better" should start accepting him now, because he will be the president of our great country and the last time I checked this was called the UNITED States of America, as it should be, and as it should continue to be. "
A.P. wrote on Nov 4, 2008 2:37 PM:
" Immoral days of clinton? you mean when the deficit dropped, unemployment dropped and the housing market was booming? stop trying to make this about you're own religion! how many people have to die in useless wars to make you see the error of your ways? 5000 sound like a good number?
Oh and i looked up how many people were killed and injured by the domestic violence of a certain Bill Ayers... ZERO!!! What more can I say. you're candidate insists on perpetuating a unending war in the middle east that kills innocent on both sides and costs this country millions of dollars a year. imagine how much of that could have been spent: building hospitals, paying into to planned parent hood (educating people and preventing unwanted pregnancies), OR helping revamp the energy infrastructure. Nope, you reps would rather continue putting u.s. soldiers in harms way, bringing unwanted children into the medicare fold and driving around your suv keeping us ever-reliant on foreign oil... you're ideals are just too old-fashined. they have no place in our current society. in closing i'll point out that we did come to this beautiful country to escape religious persecution yet we go to wars under the banner of religious right, we wage battles on our own soil to protect the rights of one religion at the expense of another, we bomb abortion clinics because we feel our ideals, our morality should be practiced by everyone. you've led a fortunate life, others haven't. you can't imagine what some people are forced to deal with in their lives, on a daily basis. you just sit on your high horse and preach at people under you about adhering to agendas that don't help them out at all. hypocrite! "
Oh and i looked up how many people were killed and injured by the domestic violence of a certain Bill Ayers... ZERO!!! What more can I say. you're candidate insists on perpetuating a unending war in the middle east that kills innocent on both sides and costs this country millions of dollars a year. imagine how much of that could have been spent: building hospitals, paying into to planned parent hood (educating people and preventing unwanted pregnancies), OR helping revamp the energy infrastructure. Nope, you reps would rather continue putting u.s. soldiers in harms way, bringing unwanted children into the medicare fold and driving around your suv keeping us ever-reliant on foreign oil... you're ideals are just too old-fashined. they have no place in our current society. in closing i'll point out that we did come to this beautiful country to escape religious persecution yet we go to wars under the banner of religious right, we wage battles on our own soil to protect the rights of one religion at the expense of another, we bomb abortion clinics because we feel our ideals, our morality should be practiced by everyone. you've led a fortunate life, others haven't. you can't imagine what some people are forced to deal with in their lives, on a daily basis. you just sit on your high horse and preach at people under you about adhering to agendas that don't help them out at all. hypocrite! "
ObamaSupporter wrote on Nov 4, 2008 2:21 PM:
" BoyOBoy... You're about as wrong as they come when you say all Obama supporters are "Uneducated, Uninformed, Unemployed". I am none of those things. Take ONE look at what AP has to say and how he says it. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he's OBVIOUSLY educated AND INFORMED. If you knew him, you'd know he's also employed. You don't have to be a retard just because you're a republican. Maybe someone will give a crap about what you have to say when YOU become the informed one. "
Melissa wrote on Nov 4, 2008 2:04 PM:
" Bill:
BRAVO!! That is very well put. I agree completely. This childish back and forth gets us nowhere. Everyone should vote what they believe, respect others that do not vote as they do, and in the end unite as a whole when the final vote is tallied! "
BRAVO!! That is very well put. I agree completely. This childish back and forth gets us nowhere. Everyone should vote what they believe, respect others that do not vote as they do, and in the end unite as a whole when the final vote is tallied! "
Bill wrote on Nov 4, 2008 12:54 PM:
" I think at this time in our country no matter who gets the presidency the most AMERICAN thing we can do it rally around our leaders and try and push through this financial crisis. It is far to late to point fingers, I wish the party lines would just disappear all i see it doing is dividing people look at the postings on this page it is a sad day for us as a people that we cannot have our opinion without being attacked for it. Please people try and see past party lines and color and see neighbors and friends who's experiences in life bring somehting new and valuable to the table. I don't pretend to know it all or have the answers but I am always willing to open my mind and listen to someone who's mind is not closed. "
SallyQ wrote on Nov 4, 2008 12:42 PM:
" AP:
I came across this joke, it fits you to a T.
Enjoy:
The Republican Fisherman
>
> A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her
> altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him, > 'Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am.'
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, 'You're in a hot air
balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees,
49.09 minutes west longitude.'
She rolled her eyes and said, 'You must be a Republican.' 'I am,' replied the man. 'How did you know?' 'Well,' answered the balloonist, 'everything you told me is technically correct , but I have no idea what to do with your
information, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help to me.'
The man smiled and responded, 'You must be a Democrat.'
'I am,' replied the balloonist. 'How did you know?'
"Well,' said the man, 'you don't know where you are or where you are
going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air.
You made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and you expect
> me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but, somehow, now it's my fault." "
I came across this joke, it fits you to a T.
Enjoy:
The Republican Fisherman
>
> A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her
> altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him, > 'Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am.'
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, 'You're in a hot air
balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees,
49.09 minutes west longitude.'
She rolled her eyes and said, 'You must be a Republican.' 'I am,' replied the man. 'How did you know?' 'Well,' answered the balloonist, 'everything you told me is technically correct , but I have no idea what to do with your
information, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help to me.'
The man smiled and responded, 'You must be a Democrat.'
'I am,' replied the balloonist. 'How did you know?'
"Well,' said the man, 'you don't know where you are or where you are
going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air.
You made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and you expect
> me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but, somehow, now it's my fault." "
VW Bug wrote on Nov 4, 2008 12:31 PM:
" Larry,
I guess you missed where Al-Quada endorses McCain. You must have missed that on Fox News.
It is the mindset you show that is dividing our great nation! It is just a shame. At least if McCain steals the election, democrats and liberals will still continue to support their president, even if they don't agree. I fear that your like will not and will find another stupid reason to go after Obama should he win the election!... kind of how they did to Clinton...Well, we will see how this all plays out and who gets to say "I told you so." since we are playing that childish game. "
I guess you missed where Al-Quada endorses McCain. You must have missed that on Fox News.
It is the mindset you show that is dividing our great nation! It is just a shame. At least if McCain steals the election, democrats and liberals will still continue to support their president, even if they don't agree. I fear that your like will not and will find another stupid reason to go after Obama should he win the election!... kind of how they did to Clinton...Well, we will see how this all plays out and who gets to say "I told you so." since we are playing that childish game. "
AJ wrote on Nov 4, 2008 12:27 PM:
" AP:
You said: ayers promotes free-thinking something you should look into.
So does Charles Manson, based on your idealology, should we vote for him to? "
You said: ayers promotes free-thinking something you should look into.
So does Charles Manson, based on your idealology, should we vote for him to? "
BoyOBoy wrote on Nov 4, 2008 11:37 AM:
" AP:
You represent exactly the voters of Obama.
Uneducated, Uninformed, Unemployed, you will get a tax break even though you don't work while the rest of America once again supports the freeloaders of this country. You probably drive a Prius while pushing teenagers into abortion clinics as a form of birth control.
The rest of us Amercians will get through this, we survived the immoral days of Clinton, we will survive the immoral and unethical days of Obama.
Thank God for Klamath County, there are only a few of you here. "
You represent exactly the voters of Obama.
Uneducated, Uninformed, Unemployed, you will get a tax break even though you don't work while the rest of America once again supports the freeloaders of this country. You probably drive a Prius while pushing teenagers into abortion clinics as a form of birth control.
The rest of us Amercians will get through this, we survived the immoral days of Clinton, we will survive the immoral and unethical days of Obama.
Thank God for Klamath County, there are only a few of you here. "
A.P. wrote on Nov 4, 2008 11:10 AM:
" you're just scared because you've been fed these lies for more than 20 months now. Things will be OK if Obama gets elected. If mccain does the country will continue its slide into a negative abyss from which it will only climb out of with the help from a liberal administration. Historically the country has done much better financially under libs, admit it.
ayers promotes free-thinking something you should look into. for you to liken him to a child molester is simply juvenile. the same could be said of republicans and their stance on abortion rights. how many young girls are raped everyday, some by their own family members and your asking them to be strong and carry this demon seed, give birth so they can pass the unwanted child off onto the system gobbling up tax dollars.
as far has going to a booth to vote... i think all the states should adopt our policy it would do away with the corruption behind voting machines, you naughty little republicans. "
ayers promotes free-thinking something you should look into. for you to liken him to a child molester is simply juvenile. the same could be said of republicans and their stance on abortion rights. how many young girls are raped everyday, some by their own family members and your asking them to be strong and carry this demon seed, give birth so they can pass the unwanted child off onto the system gobbling up tax dollars.
as far has going to a booth to vote... i think all the states should adopt our policy it would do away with the corruption behind voting machines, you naughty little republicans. "
Larry wrote on Nov 4, 2008 11:06 AM:
" AP
The differnece between the two is McCain is not backed by terrorist.
I think if anyone changes their minds, it will someone who was thinking about voting for Obama.
I am hoping that most people don't have blinders on like AP has on, but in reality, we have to hope for the best, but in this case, expect the worse. "
The differnece between the two is McCain is not backed by terrorist.
I think if anyone changes their minds, it will someone who was thinking about voting for Obama.
I am hoping that most people don't have blinders on like AP has on, but in reality, we have to hope for the best, but in this case, expect the worse. "
want to go to a booth wrote on Nov 4, 2008 10:30 AM:
" I think my names says it all. I would really like the opportunity to go to a booth to vote. I have lived in Klamath my whole life and I have been voting for 11 years so when I got to vote for President the first time they had already started the mail in ballots and not that it is bad but I would like to just once go and vote in a booth. "
Pete G wrote on Nov 4, 2008 10:14 AM:
" Few holes in your statements:
"ayers is a well-respected professor"
Wrong: He is a domestic terrorist who is unrepentant for his action, many people died because of his actions, now he is influencing the young. This man is no better than a sex offender, and needs to be kept away from children.
Obama started his political career in his living room using terrorist dollars.
I only hope that your candidate legalizes what your smokin, because if he is elected, we will all need to live in the fairy tale land your in now.
Good Luck "
"ayers is a well-respected professor"
Wrong: He is a domestic terrorist who is unrepentant for his action, many people died because of his actions, now he is influencing the young. This man is no better than a sex offender, and needs to be kept away from children.
Obama started his political career in his living room using terrorist dollars.
I only hope that your candidate legalizes what your smokin, because if he is elected, we will all need to live in the fairy tale land your in now.
Good Luck "
A.P. wrote on Nov 4, 2008 10:09 AM:
" regarding Larry's post:
he same can be said of those who openly support mccain. discuss the matter accordingly with their conservative neighbors because they don't want to ostracized by them, even go so far as to put mccain signs up on their front lawns because heaven forbid they be construed as liberals, socialist, marxists, communists, or just plain unamerican (said with the twang of someone from georgia). but deep down inside they know who best. who speaks the facts, who has a valid plan for our economic crisis, who really cares about this country and the average voter... and not about some outdated religious ideology. they know that when they touch that button, poke that chad, pull that lever or fill that bubble the future of this great country and it's tarnished image are at stake and will vote Obama. But then again we do live in the U.S. and i would never count any republican out, i mean we've so many good ones. there was... oh wait, what about... you know... well let me get back to you when i can remember one. "
he same can be said of those who openly support mccain. discuss the matter accordingly with their conservative neighbors because they don't want to ostracized by them, even go so far as to put mccain signs up on their front lawns because heaven forbid they be construed as liberals, socialist, marxists, communists, or just plain unamerican (said with the twang of someone from georgia). but deep down inside they know who best. who speaks the facts, who has a valid plan for our economic crisis, who really cares about this country and the average voter... and not about some outdated religious ideology. they know that when they touch that button, poke that chad, pull that lever or fill that bubble the future of this great country and it's tarnished image are at stake and will vote Obama. But then again we do live in the U.S. and i would never count any republican out, i mean we've so many good ones. there was... oh wait, what about... you know... well let me get back to you when i can remember one. "
A.P. wrote on Nov 4, 2008 9:58 AM:
" I will admit that there are some loose ties between wright, ayers and kahlidi. so how will i even start?
ayers is a well-respected professor of lit who was at the time of his so-called terrorist acts speaking out against a corrupt government that lied to its people any chance it got and attempted, and still does, to bolster support for only the rich white people under the guise of religious right. he will go down in history as a extremely influential non-politico who fought for the underdog. the ties you speak of are flimbsy at best. they served on the same educational board in inter-city chicago. so, judging by the way the republicans talk about these areas, the people are anti-patriotic and because they don't back mccain don't care about the country so they don't really matter. rubbish! there are many more people living in these areas than rural ones. how dare you insinuate these people are somehow less american than yourself. am i not an american?
he did attend church for 20 year under this wright guy. but has since refuted any involvement. wright IS out there, but he is also speaking out against the U.S. government, one that has oppressed people of color. if you could only put yourself in his shoes for a minute, practice a little empathy, you'd feel differently. what if your race had been kept down for hundreds of years and under the mask of this equality banner continues to have be taken advantage of and remains stifled professionally, culturally, financially, and POLITICALLY! you'd be furious, i assure you.
i notice you didn't even mention kahlidi... the PLO guy that wright and Obama collectively gave something like $80,000 dollars to. or is that the jew-hating part of your weak argument? maybe it's best you not mention his name because this guy does not support a free Israeli state in the middle east and they two of those guys did give him some cash a couple of years ago, AND your candidate (lil ole mccain) gave him nearly $500,000! so, which candidate is the anti-semite? not my guy. if you do the math mccain is like 5 time more of an antisemite than both Obama and Wright combined. Scary correlations are one thing the truth is the ONLY thing! "
ayers is a well-respected professor of lit who was at the time of his so-called terrorist acts speaking out against a corrupt government that lied to its people any chance it got and attempted, and still does, to bolster support for only the rich white people under the guise of religious right. he will go down in history as a extremely influential non-politico who fought for the underdog. the ties you speak of are flimbsy at best. they served on the same educational board in inter-city chicago. so, judging by the way the republicans talk about these areas, the people are anti-patriotic and because they don't back mccain don't care about the country so they don't really matter. rubbish! there are many more people living in these areas than rural ones. how dare you insinuate these people are somehow less american than yourself. am i not an american?
he did attend church for 20 year under this wright guy. but has since refuted any involvement. wright IS out there, but he is also speaking out against the U.S. government, one that has oppressed people of color. if you could only put yourself in his shoes for a minute, practice a little empathy, you'd feel differently. what if your race had been kept down for hundreds of years and under the mask of this equality banner continues to have be taken advantage of and remains stifled professionally, culturally, financially, and POLITICALLY! you'd be furious, i assure you.
i notice you didn't even mention kahlidi... the PLO guy that wright and Obama collectively gave something like $80,000 dollars to. or is that the jew-hating part of your weak argument? maybe it's best you not mention his name because this guy does not support a free Israeli state in the middle east and they two of those guys did give him some cash a couple of years ago, AND your candidate (lil ole mccain) gave him nearly $500,000! so, which candidate is the anti-semite? not my guy. if you do the math mccain is like 5 time more of an antisemite than both Obama and Wright combined. Scary correlations are one thing the truth is the ONLY thing! "
Larry wrote on Nov 4, 2008 9:31 AM:
" I think what people tell the press, and what people actually do are two different things.
I believe that when a voter is alone in the voting booth, and it comes time to mark one or the other, doubt will go through thier mind on Obama and they will vote McCain. They will think, "Oh it's just one vote, it won't matter", but in the long run it will.
People will come to their senses at the last minute, and save us from 4 years of an Obama Socialist Government. "
I believe that when a voter is alone in the voting booth, and it comes time to mark one or the other, doubt will go through thier mind on Obama and they will vote McCain. They will think, "Oh it's just one vote, it won't matter", but in the long run it will.
People will come to their senses at the last minute, and save us from 4 years of an Obama Socialist Government. "
Pete G wrote on Nov 4, 2008 8:59 AM:
" Only in America would we vote for a Marxist radical, who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshipped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded, and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power, anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists, and Chicago mobsters.
Biden makes Cheney look like a rocket scientist, and without a teleprompter, I don't know if Hussein knows how to talk.
Oh well, I'm taking my money out of investments now, because we won't have any left if the libs are in.
Can't wait to come back in a few months after he's sworn in, and say "Told you so". I wonder how many planes will be flown into buildings in the next 4 years? "
Biden makes Cheney look like a rocket scientist, and without a teleprompter, I don't know if Hussein knows how to talk.
Oh well, I'm taking my money out of investments now, because we won't have any left if the libs are in.
Can't wait to come back in a few months after he's sworn in, and say "Told you so". I wonder how many planes will be flown into buildings in the next 4 years? "
DG wrote on Nov 4, 2008 8:27 AM:
" It amazes me how some folks will stubbornly climg to their principles, even defending Bush/Cheney right to the end after the colossal failures of that administration. They continue to allow themselves to be force fed by Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage (real name Weiner) daily because that the only thing on the radio in English in the smaller cities. If Obama wins, the reason is very clear. Americans are apalled by the clowns placed by the Republicans is 2000 and are enthusiastic about someone as opposite as possible. Frankly I dont feel like voting for anyone who is even the same color as George Bush, Im so disgusted. So if its President Obama, and you voted for W, you can look in the mirror to find who is responsible. ( I think he'll do just fine.) 76 more days of this idiot and if McCain wins its still a vast improvement. "
bee wrote on Nov 4, 2008 7:53 AM:
" I thought the home charter vote would be close. There are just to many uniformed voters for it not to be close. "
dennis wrote on Nov 4, 2008 7:48 AM:
" I voted for Bush Jr. mainly to help our community, although I truely thought he would be for the people unlike his ivy league father, well now we know. I voted for him again only because he got us in the Iraq war I thought he should finish it, well we now know that didn't happen. The war and the profiteerers have ruined our economy so I will not be voting republican again. "
Pete G wrote on Nov 4, 2008 7:36 AM:
" A.P.
The only scary thing here, is it's all true, can you deny it? "
The only scary thing here, is it's all true, can you deny it? "
A.P. wrote on Nov 3, 2008 10:30 PM:
" with all due respect... Who's quote is that? that's so typical a republican regurgitate something that amounts to nothing more than right-winged scare tactics. Sounds like they grew up in the sticks somewhere and has bought into every attack the republicans have thrown at Obama... this compasionate, intelligent, eloquent and highly respected senator just happens to be a better candidate. He's ideas on the economy have been accepted by many, even republican pundits, to be more sound than mccains, who's just happen to be outdated. And while mccain holds onto this antiquated ideology, with regard to our country's involvement in iraq, Obama is poised to take the emphasis off of iraq putting that money into actually going after the REAL terrorist.
We need to repair our image around the globe not perpetuate the negativity that has made us the enemy to all. have you been out of the basin, the state, the country lately? We are not the powerhouse we use to be. We have become a joke. I'll chose a little irrational fear over a candidate i know to be irratic and out of touch. Thanks. "
We need to repair our image around the globe not perpetuate the negativity that has made us the enemy to all. have you been out of the basin, the state, the country lately? We are not the powerhouse we use to be. We have become a joke. I'll chose a little irrational fear over a candidate i know to be irratic and out of touch. Thanks. "
Pete G wrote on Nov 3, 2008 6:48 PM:
" Call me a bigot, I will wear it as a badge of honor. We will see who is wrong, I will give it one year until the final flush will be done with this country.
Quote of the Day
"You have to pinch yourself....
A Marxist radical, who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshipped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded, and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power, anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists, and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it's considered impolite to say so." "
Quote of the Day
"You have to pinch yourself....
A Marxist radical, who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshipped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded, and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power, anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists, and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it's considered impolite to say so." "
Voter wrote on Nov 3, 2008 5:53 PM:
" Peter G: WRONG!
Check your history: Harry Boivin, President of Senate, Democrat; got more done in this county than any Republican since. "
Check your history: Harry Boivin, President of Senate, Democrat; got more done in this county than any Republican since. "
A.P. wrote on Nov 3, 2008 5:41 PM:
" You might want to think long and hard about the way you comment on this issue unless of course you enjoy being labled as a bigot... sounds like you might though. This is a very conservative area but as a 30 white male I am very proud of the support Obama has recieved in this area. This country is a giant melting pot and I believe there is no better candidate to represent the diverse interests of ALL voters than that of the senator from ILL. If you turned on the news once in a while, something other than FOX, you'd see this. I know you're scared this country is changing and you fear you'll be left behind, but you need to trust the succeeding generation to make this decision, becuase lets face it you're not making the decisioin becuase you make enough money to actually benefit from a McCain agenda, you're making it based on your warped perception of what the US and its politicians should LOOK like. Grow Up! We are the future of this beautiful country and I am proud to be an American for the first time in nearly 7 years. This last administration has been an embarassemnt to the U.S. OBAMA represents REAL change! "
Pete G wrote on Nov 3, 2008 3:56 PM:
" Nobama:
Might want to check the survey, you are in enemy territory here in Klamath Falls. We don't want Hussein, but unfortunately, whatever Portland, Eugene and Ashland wants, the rest of us gets.
I'm not moving anywhere, been here all my life. I have survived many presidents, and will survive Hussein as well. The majority of the comments are the people complaining about the way Klamath County votes, my response was, if you don't like it move.
Your the one trespassing on republican land, not us. "
Might want to check the survey, you are in enemy territory here in Klamath Falls. We don't want Hussein, but unfortunately, whatever Portland, Eugene and Ashland wants, the rest of us gets.
I'm not moving anywhere, been here all my life. I have survived many presidents, and will survive Hussein as well. The majority of the comments are the people complaining about the way Klamath County votes, my response was, if you don't like it move.
Your the one trespassing on republican land, not us. "
Obama Supporter wrote on Nov 3, 2008 1:06 PM:
" What about Eugene? Other than Ashland, it's one of the most liberal towns in the huge state. The majority of Oregonias live on the I5 corridor, not out here in Klamath County. Funny how Ashland, Eugene and Portland are all on it. So how do TRUE Oregonians vote?!! Oh yea, DEMOCRAT!! Maybe all you republicans should move to Texas or the "deep south" where YOU belong! OBAMA/BIDEN 08 "
RH wrote on Nov 3, 2008 7:34 AM:
" Pete G.
Did I wake up in a different country? I thought the USA was free and that anyone could live where they wanted.
I was told by a Pastor here that this is a county high in Satanic presence. I thought that to be interesting since this has alot of Christians and mostly Republicans. "
Did I wake up in a different country? I thought the USA was free and that anyone could live where they wanted.
I was told by a Pastor here that this is a county high in Satanic presence. I thought that to be interesting since this has alot of Christians and mostly Republicans. "
Ihcalam wrote on Nov 2, 2008 10:06 PM:
" Pete G:
A similar statement could be made and directed at yourself and others that think like you do. "Why don't all you MCCAIN supporters all move to the deep south to be with others like you.
I find it ridiculous that anyone would be so out there that they actually believe that Klamath County represents the true Oregon.
and no i didnt vote for Obama. I didnt like either one of them. to paraphrase Scott Hoffman from 99.5, they are both Tools "
A similar statement could be made and directed at yourself and others that think like you do. "Why don't all you MCCAIN supporters all move to the deep south to be with others like you.
I find it ridiculous that anyone would be so out there that they actually believe that Klamath County represents the true Oregon.
and no i didnt vote for Obama. I didnt like either one of them. to paraphrase Scott Hoffman from 99.5, they are both Tools "
Pete G wrote on Nov 2, 2008 10:24 AM:
" Maybe you Obama supporters should move to Portland or Ashland, at least you will be with your own over there. Klamath County represents the true Oregon and always has and always will vote republican. I'm surprised there are even demoncrats still living here. "
Mike wrote on Nov 1, 2008 6:51 PM:
" Does it really matter?Politics are like religion.Stupid arguments that never resolve anything and always end up in blood shed. "
Steve wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:49 PM:
" This whole 2 to 1 stat makes me puke in my mouth a lil bit.... Oh well... At least it isn't Utah! "
Karen wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:35 PM:
" Hmmm, somehow that doesn't surprise me. Interesting since the rest of Oregon is expected to go for Obama. Why is Klamath County still such a holdout for conservatism? McCain's temperament and Palin's hypocrisy concern me, among other things. I think Obama will be a great president. "
Willie wrote on Oct 31, 2008 1:42 PM:
" Yeah big surprise aye Tina,,LOL just have faith that our votes cancel out at least two for McCain/Palin.. Oh I'm gonna get it for this, I will check back in a week to read all the I'm so stupid mail.....Fireye??? "
Tina wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:26 AM:
" Like we all didn't know Klamath County would go for McCain/Palin. "
BM wrote on Oct 31, 2008 6:22 AM:
" Thank God there's the Willamette Valley and Portland to vote for the Democrat side. "
debby wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:58 PM:
" Craig,
You are soooo correct re. Palin and her b.s. In no way should she ever be allowed to be president or vice president! "
You are soooo correct re. Palin and her b.s. In no way should she ever be allowed to be president or vice president! "
craig wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:46 AM:
" Palin as President?? In her short time as governor she pulled all kinds of shenanigans and dishonest actions. We mustn't vote for her face and short skirts!! McCain is elderly; she is another Bush-dumb and Bush-I-don't-care politician. How can anyone support that ticket...other than rich old boys? "
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VW Bug wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:05 AM:
Even if McCain had won, I would have wished for the same...And I can say that honestly... but it woudn't have change the divide that we have had for such a long time
So here we sit on one side of the fence or the other and for what? So our government can get stronger while the people fight among themselves. If you ask me...they might have the key we are missing. They have stood united party to party and will stand united against the little people and unfortunately...we have let them. "Keep the people bickering among themselves while we give out huge sums of money to companies that would otherwise fail. Let's keep them busy blaming each others parties while we make the changes we want to, because if they are busy, they won't know what the issues are and won't care, because later, when they do find out"... the blame game starts again. And it has...
Well, to my fellow Americans, from today on, I refuse to blame one party or another...but blame the politicians that have made the decisions. No more mudslinging to my neighbors...no more...
I truly hate to see such a divided
America, but more so a divided Klamath. Everyone here is entitled to their opinion and their choices and you know what? That is what the Constitution of the United States gave us. It gave us the freedom to make choices and not be condemned by it.
The infighting has to stop and the finger pointing. We all need to start looking at our politicians and start asking them questions. Because I tell you what... no one here can tell me why a politician voted a certain way... or if they even know how they voted...me included. But I intend to find out now. "