" The dams pollute the water with massive growths of toxic algae. The dams kill off the salmon which is a big, big economic loss to commercial and sport fishing industry. Geothermal is here and is increasing [plant being built on Lower Klamath Road.] Remove the dams, restore salmon and recreation economic development and replace dams with true clean geothermal energy. Save the rate payers money over the cost of fish ladders that, no doubt, will have problems passing all species [like the Columbia River dams do not adequately pass adequate numbers of eels so eels appear to be headed for the endangered species list.] "

" Right On Ben!!! Poor misguided Rick...
Hey Rick, when was the last time you went swimming in Klamath Lake...I think I was in it in 1972...still came out with green stuff all over me... "

" As Truth said, the Indian (or Native American, whatever) Nations are sovereign, and rightfully so. If the state decided to build a toxic waste dump next to your house, would you buy the argument that you had been "given" too much safety from poison? After all, without the waste, the general public wouldn't have it's power, it's vehicle, or it's international food supply.
Read this article by Pacificorp's parent company (http://www.berkshireshareholders.com/Documents/Klamath-Dams-Agency-Factsheet.pdf), which points out that removing the dams would be cheaper than building fish ladders. And (look it up) the dams provide less than 1% of Pacificorp's electricity and is sold to us at retail rates.
Ah, how objectivity and "facts" can be used so subjectively.
Don't forget that Salmon are dying off, and that by restoring Salmon to the Klamath (which have declined by 90%) we would increase local food supplies, and communities all along it will probably make more money. We can learn a lot about living on this earth from the "aboriginals."
Truth, the localist needs you. Please find us. Out in '09. "

" This uis an offensive piece. If you cannot see the value of removal and you think only tribes lead the effort, yoo are not paying attention. If you think the dams provide "green" power, you have not seen the river below them choked with solid wastes in the form of toxic cyanobacteria. "

" Nothing stated was hate speech!

I dont use the incorrect term "indian". We dont live in India! Columbus incorrectly thought he had landed in India and incorrectly labeled the native aboriginals as indians. The continents werent labeled North and South America until much later.

Where is the hate in being correct? Your "looking for hate", when it isnt there!

Have a good day! "

" "Decades... your responce is a standard aboriginal one."

One that recognises hate speech?

I pay my own power bills. I work to pay them. Like everyone else. "

" Isn't that the question - pay for fish ladders or tear down the dams? Either way it will cost. Too bad that the fish ladders were not installed when the dams were built...like it said in the treaty...pick your poison "

" Decades... your responce is a standard aboriginal one.

I guess you wont be happy until the rivers have flowed free with all the water having gone down stream (then dry in summer months).

Are your power bills paid for by those same aboriginal tribes?? "

" 'too much say is given over to Indian tribes...'---lookup Sovereignty. Nothing is given.

If you are worried about the general public, figure out why 5% of the population controls 80% of the wealth. The greedy people that control that company see $$, not people. It costs more to install ladders then tearing them down. So, he ain't considering those ladders because there's no profit and tearing them down is cheaper. This means they lose less.

The people that have too much say are the wealthy. Some tribes have casino money because the profits are large. Klamath Indians are not one of those tribes. We are not all the same.

FYI: The 'SAY' you worry the Indians have too much of, is owned by the wealthy.

Don't go accusing Indians for this problem, again. Tulelake was a beautiful lake before it was a town and farmlands. The problem you blame on the Indians was created by white people for white people. Water, in a lake the size of Tule, can be considered plentiful. The water isn't plentiful, along with fish, deer, elk, etc. It was plentiful for over 15,000 years until outsiders showed up. Don't blame Indians. Greed was not our way. That's why it was so easy to move across this land and take it over. Because we are good, generous people. We didn't judge you on your skin color the way you all judged us. We knew we could live on the land together. You fenced it in and sent us to Reservations. We've been in recovery mode since you brought all this to us.

Yeah, you'll say we'd still be living without internet, running water, etc. and where would we be without you. I ain't gonna argue that. Things are the way the are and we're forced to live accordingly.(9-5 jobs, taxes, poverty, and a racist county known as Klamath)

You forget, we don't. "

" A decent and clean opinion until you get here:

"It seems to be that too much say is given over to Indian tribes and not enough to the general public’s welfare. Perhaps this is due to a lot of cash sloshing around from casinos or perhaps it is due to legal maneuvers and tactics, but the facts on the ground are for keeping the dams, not blowing them up. Electric rates will zoom if these dams are removed."

Then your objectivity dies. "

" Very well said, and to the correct objective point !! "